Stay Fly
featuring Juicy J, DJ Paul, Young Buck, Crunchy Black, 8Ball, and MJG
vs.
International Player’s Anthem
featuring Andre 3000, Pimp C, Bun B, and Big Boi
Here we go again with the Battle of the Posse Cuts! After last week, I said I was going to try to pick tracks of a comparable vibe. However, the opportunity to pit these legends against each other was more compelling than matching vibes. Plus, while noting that both of these songs were released after Hip Hop’s Golden Age, I feel an exception is warranted since all the artist are influenced by and may have even been rhyming during the Golden Age. Moreover, to avoid what happened with our last battle when we pitted two songs against one, for this battle our match-ups will be:
- the first two verses from Stay Fly vs the first verse from International Player’s Anthem;
- the third and fourth verses vs. the second;
- the fifth verse vs. the third; and
- the closers going head-to-head.
As you may now know, these battles are subjective and follow three rules. The competing songs:
- must feature at least three different MCs;
- cannot be from the same crew (while recognizing that this week’s battle features two songs with beats generated by the same team – Three 6 Mafia); and
- will be of a similar region.
Keep in mind, that the battle is scored like a relay. The scoring is:
0 – Maybe y’all should have just sang the hook instead of this verse;
1 – Okay, we hear you;
2 – Whoa, that was nice!; and
3 – DAAANNNNGGG, I’ll be repeating those bars all day!
Lead-Off Leg: Juicy J & DJ Paul vs. Andre 3000
Ouch. I’m just going to put it out there – Andre 3000 is one of my all-time favorite MCs (a group that includes Big Daddy Kane, Rakim, Black Thought, and Phonte). On the other hand, Three Six Mafia gets love from me due to their hustle and reinvention. Juicy J and DJ Paul are a case study in entrepreneurship. However, that’s a study for another day; today, Juicy J gets us going with:
“They call me the Juice and you know I’mma stunt
Riding in the car with some bump in the trunk
Tone in my lap & you know it’s a pump
Breaking down the good green, rolling the blunt
Ghetto pimp type, girls say I’m the man
Ice on the wrist with the ice in the chain
Riding through the hood, got me gripping the grain
And I’m sipping the same, while I’m changing the lane“
Consistent with the theme of the song, Juicy is fly. His flow is remarkable. He is in possession of that good stuff and in his fly-mobile, he is looking pretty cool. No surprises there.
DJ Paul follows with:
“DJ Paul is a dog, one you do not trust
You leave your green around me, n***a your green gonna get lit up
You leave your drank around me, believe your drank gonna get drunk up
You leave your girl around me, if she bad she gonna get stuck“
Message: Do not leave your things unattended around DJ Paul if you plan on keeping them.
Not even adding those verses together can touch a legendary verse from Andre 3000 as he flips the damn thang all the way over. I mean, dude getting married during an anthem for players? While wearing a kilt? Then on a track with a soulfully classic beat, he spits damn-near a cappella? Not only does he pull it off, man, he knocks that s*** out of the park!
“So, I typed a text to a girl I used to see
Saying that I chose this cutie pie with whom I wanna be
And I apologize if this message gets you down
Then I CC’ed every girl that I’d see-see ’round town
And hate to see y’all frown but I’d rather see her smilin’
Wetness all around me, true, but I’m no island
Peninsula maybe, it makes no sense, I know crazy“
The pairing of OutKast and UGK on the same track is heaven-sent and this verse from 3 Stacks steals the show.
Juicy J & DJ Paul- 1 Andre 3000 – 3
Stay Fly – 1 International Player’s Anthem – 3
Second Leg: Young Buck & Crunchy Black vs. Pimp C
At the time Stay Fly dropped, Young Buck was on the come up – representing Nashville and G-Unit. Nowadays, that G-Unit affiliation has a little backlash for him but back when this song was bumping he was informing us of his bond with Three Six:
“Three 6 Mafia, them my kinfolks
So when I’m in Memphis, Tenn-a-key
I just might not bring my own cause them n****s there
Let me smoke for free“
Crunchy Black follows Buck but doesn’t add anything magical to the song. True story: years before I penned old school Hip Hop flashbacks, I was a church administrator (not a preacher). Once, we were holding our weekly team meeting and the others noticed my downcast disposition. They inquired what was wrong and I responded, “Man, Pimp C died.” Yep, the rest of the team was speechless and you can see why I was not a preacher. Anyhow, every since he crooned us about the stones filling out his pockets, Pimp C has held a special place in my Hip Hop memories. With this verse, he lives up to his name:
“She be cross country, givin’ all that she got
A thousand a pop, I’m pullin’ Bentleys off the lot
I smashed up the gray one, bought me a red
Every time we hit the parkin’ lot we turn heads
Some h**s wanna choose but them b*****s too scary
Your b***h chose me, you ain’t a pimp, you a fairy“
You know the rules of the pimp game right? Well, if not, let’s just say your lady choosing Pimp C (particularly during a song sampling I Choose You) is not a good look for you. Lyrically, Pimp breaks no new ground here even with his s***-talking bravado.
Young Buck & Crunchy Black – 1 Pimp C – 2
Stay Fly – 2 International Player’s Anthem – 5
Third Leg: 8Ball vs. Bun B
YESSIR! 8Ball’s and Bun B’s impact on Southern Hip Hop cannot be overstated. While it is hard to push legacy aside, for this battle, we must. Even still, 8Ball’s legacy as a pimp is evident in his bars:
“Your girlfriend wanna ride with me
In a car with a pimp, where she supposed to be
You ain’t met no dude spit it cold as me“
If consistency mattered, then 8Ball would win because he been laying down the pimp game since Comin’ Out Hard. However, if we are going pimp bars vs. pimp bars then Bun B came out harder with:
“Baby, you been rollin’ solo, time to get down with the team
The grass is greener on that other side, if you know what I mean
I show you s*** you never seen, the Seven Wonders of the World
And I can make you the eighth if you wanna be my girl“
If we did a matchup of their respective catalogs, that head-to-head competition would be closer; but between these songs, we have to go with:
8Ball- 1 Bun B – 2
Stay Fly – 3 International Player’s Anthem – 7
Anchor Leg: MJG vs. Big Boi
Much like his partner, 8Ball, MJG is known for spittin’ pimp game. He is also known for his unique flow and underrated word play. Typically, in a relay, the anchor is leg is one of the teams strongest runners. MJG would prove that here as well, particularly considering his reputation as the closer as heard on the underground classic, Lay It Down, or the Bun-B track with 8Ball, David Banner, and Rick Ross, You’re Everything, and the slept-on club banger, Sho’Nuff with Tela. On Stay Fly, MJG maintains his reputation as a closer with:
“MJ finna sprinkle in some of that
Super incredible, have a n***a running back
Where that n***a with the hood sticky number at
Cutting up a cigarillo like a lumber jack
In the morning, when I need this and breath again a whole lot of weed but
I’m needing somebody to give me what I need
When I want nothing less then the best of the trees“
Typing those words doesn’t capture MJG’s flow which takes the lyrics to a more memorable level. Speaking of flow, I’m an OutKast fan but I wasn’t really feeling Big Boi’s flow on International Player’s Anthem. His emphasis on avoiding child support is advice to be heeded, but his wordplay is impeded by the flow:
“Eeny meeny decisions, with precision I pick or
Make my selection on who I choose to be wit’, girl
Don’t touch my protection, I know you want it to slip
But slippin’ is somethin’ I don’t do, tippin’ for life“
MJG – 2 Big Boi – 1
Stay Fly – 5 International Player’s Anthem – 8
Having all those Tennessee legends on one track was genius and the beat? It’s BANGIN’!!! Like for real, play it in your headphones during your workout and see if you don’t get hype! Yet, UGK and OutKast on the same track? That’s extraordinary. Though this beat also bumps, particularly as they change it up for each MC, it complements the MC more so than drives the song. With that in mind, lyrically? International Player’s Anthem is the champ!
Dope read. The only missing factoid from your analysis that would tie everything together was Juicy J and DJ Paul producing the beat for Players Anthem. The beat was originally used for Project Pat’s “Choose U.” I believe David Banner later added some drums.
This comparison/battle is no battle. Andre 3000 verse on International Players Anthem is a Hip Hop Classic PERIOD!! Next>>>>